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Key Milestones That Built My Muscle

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Reflections of various points along the way (over many years) where I experienced great progress from something learned.
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SpeakEasy DoorMan (1 month ago)
Glad "Joe Master Blaster Weider" is worm food He was such a fake scam lying sack of shit
Rich & Dana Huff (3 months ago)
Thanks for your videos and honesty
Jim McDonald (7 months ago)
I did Cybergetics too - I did it right after high school. I think the supps were just vitamins. I remember my piss was dark haha. The workouts were crazy - all super drop sets. It was a 60 day program and the guys who ran the gym I went to were like damn dude, you're growing like a weed.
Jim McDonald (7 months ago)
It's funny as you were leading up to saying Cybergenics - I was thinking "I wonder if he's gonna say Cybergenics" - good stuff.
Olek_Gannon (9 months ago)
you have alot of good video's alot of experience like myself even though im younger ive learned from old school lifter's after i learned new style's are pathetic and you gain nothing but one thing i know is gear has a shelf life for when you need to stop or you will end up like piana dropping dead out of nowhere.
lader baxter (9 months ago)
how tall are you ?
m Miller (10 months ago)
James!!! Tell me about the training routine that Brian had you on that got you over 200#s!
j parks (1 year ago)
not even any discussion about steroids he took. not very accurate 25 minutues to sit through
Andy Taylor (1 year ago)
I feel like we're on a date.
cybersphere (1 year ago)
This guy reminds me of Blanka from Street Fighter. Full Beast.
emaccomputer (1 year ago)
Finally a no hype nonsense channel by a wise and experienced lifter, who sounds like he's tried it all in been through it all. I really noticed when you caught yourself cussing and apologized . That is so rare these days you are a gentleman. Keep the well informed videos coming bro I am a new subscriber, peace Daniel.
donaldu (1 year ago)
Do a transformation video with all the photos
Pepe Walnuts (1 year ago)
Very comfy setting here in this video
Timo Peters (1 year ago)
keep up your great work man :)
Michael Smith (1 year ago)
Tiny, you are like a jacked Johnny Cash.
Pizza Face (1 year ago)
You look fucking incredible
Nicholas C (1 year ago)
Great video brother, I've been watching you for at least a year now and really appreciate the humble presentation of knowledge you give, I also give you the upmost respect for being so honest in your videos. I had to leave you this, because your channel is the reason that I created a YouTube account just so I could comment on one of your videos and thank you because I'm sure there are many others like me who watch your videos anonymously without an account and wanted to reach out and say thanks from all of us, I'll be subscribing after I post this.
dakidsbac777 (1 year ago)
What is a good solod staple training routine would u say then?
Jason Dinkins (1 year ago)
James is right about Cybergenics. I took it as well. A whole lot of vitamins and who knows what else. The thing is, like he said, they had actual workouts and days when to do the workout. Cybergenics stipulated that you work out on an empty stomach and took things to negative failure. If you were squatting the last thing you did were jump saquats with no weight until you couldn't do another jump. It worked pretty well because of all of this structure and exercise. It was what it was.
tttarms1970 (1 year ago)
Haladrol first generation was good stuff
Mark Pikas (1 year ago)
It would be interesting to hear some of the how to deal with being older info. I'm 45 now and kinda went through a lot of what you described in the early late 80's/90's (more powerlifting than bodybuilding back then though everyone I hung out with was a bodybuilder, even worked out with the likes of Kevin Levrone back then), then got fat and lazy in the late 90's/early2000's, lost some weight and got serious again almost 10 years ago, and finally in the last few years have done closer to powerlifting workouts (hanging out with the 20something powerlifters pushes you some). For the most part that's been good, has helped me train past some old injuries, but I have to admit I have issues with sore elbows and knees if I push things too heavy to often, but I don't want to quit... I'm seeing progress.
Rene Jakobsen (1 year ago)
I use to look at the Cybergenics adds and wish i could afford it.
Ryan Thomas (1 year ago)
When I first started around 96 we used to take mini thins pre-workout, talk about geeked.
Oscar Sanz (1 year ago)
Ryan Thomas yeah I think so also, I remember taking ripped fuel from twin labs that shit was harsh
Ryan Thomas (1 year ago)
Yeah a lot of OTC stims did. I think they got banned because people use Ephedrine to make meth.
Oscar Sanz (1 year ago)
Ryan Thomas I can't remember did they had ephedra in them?
t5barn (1 year ago)
Can You give me a tip of the workouts you were doing with your workout partner? i will pay
miamistomp (1 year ago)
Were you in the same area then? you should have gone down to the old York barbell Gym on Broad st. I used to drive from Philly twice a month in the early 80's and got great coaching for my olympic lifting and my wifes powerlifting A sweet memory was training with John Grimek who was still squatting with 4o5 in his 70's
Yannic (1 year ago)
This was really great to listen to. Its also kinda funny how similar all the stories of guys who start lifting are (like in general sense and the steps from training too long and not eating right, etc.) What i dont understand tho is why you dont take a small amount of GH at your age it would probably improve your life quality by a lot. And cmon, taking 3 iu in the morning s.c isnt really that complicated :D
Yeah Buddy (1 year ago)
i had a similar journey .. i just started because i was very skinny and wanted to be a little bigger Never thought I could be as big as I am now, in a lot of ways it helped having smaller goals
Jay Downey (1 year ago)
Excellent video Sir. I have become discouraged now at age 39.... i cant stay healthy, so that last part really resonated with me.
Jay Downey (1 year ago)
+James Tiny Vest long story made short, I have Cerebral Palsy and among other sports/activities, weight training and golf have served to keep me mobile etc. the saying, "if you don't use it you loose it..." goes double for people with CP. now my left knee has gone bad, and both x-ray and MRI were negative. However, I can't golf, or even walk a food store without pain.
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Jay, what is going on with your health, brother?
Billy Joe (1 year ago)
I remember the Cybergenics....never did crap for me.
Kfx Guy (1 year ago)
Why o why did I click on this? Still rambling on. I though I was finally going to learn something. Finally Rich piana started getting to the point quickly in his two sense videos. Much preferred. Maybe make two videos. One like this one that tells life story for the ones who don't mind listening to all the story time, then another video like 3 minutes long just getting to the point. Just a thought. A good one.
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Why o why don't you go watch something more your style?  We are not it.  Do you think you are valued here?  You are not, and since this is my channel I will do as ever I please, so just go and scurry along, everything isn't for everybody.
James Osborne (1 year ago)
Great video .. you speak the truth .. my first supplement was that Hot Stuff and all that Monster Mass Gain and the only thing it did was give me diarrhea !!
tttarms1970 (1 year ago)
James Tiny Vest ultimate orange almost gave me a heart attack. lol. never did like that feeling. I remember a protien powder that looked like a 50 gal drum. God was it awful....I don't buy any powder anymore. all egg whites
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Lord, I can only shudder to imagine what that Weider crap would do to my digestive system at this age - but Hot Stuff mixed well and tasted okay as much as I remember (and I actually wonder how much "protein" that Weider crap really had in it).
Khalil Masi (1 year ago)
i wish you would have used ages or years
Nonya Biz (1 year ago)
man, brings back memories. I'm 51 and well remember those days where all you had for "information" was bb mags that were nothing more than catalogs for terrible supplements. When creatine finally came out, it was the first supplement that actually had any use.
AbandonHope (1 year ago)
Great video, as always brother.
John Lucas (1 year ago)
Chunky Weider powder that you could barley swallow ( Dynamic Muscle Builder) and Good Old Cybergenics!!! Thanks for the flash from the past brother.
j trigg (1 year ago)
Brings back a lot of memories. The strange period of late 1980's to early 1990's muscle culture. When I would budget for 1 mag a month at the store. Usually Flex or Iron man would make it, but an occasional MuscleMag 2000 or whatever Robert Kennedy's rag was called. Like you say, waiting an entire month to get the latest biceps routine or whatever. We bought everything hoping for gains. You were either on juice or being told you could get the same gains as juice. Smilax. Dibencozide. Boron. HMB. Vanadyl Sulfate. All kind of so called Russian grey market homeopathic crap. All the kits. Cybergenics. Dash. Twinlab and that Lee Haney kit. All exciting times in spite of the marketing BS and outright lies. Feed Hatfield and Joe Weider naming vitamins as Anabolic Mega Paks and getting sued in a class action. Still made money because you had to have a proven receipt of purchase to get your money back in the suit. I think they paid out around a million dollars after making 60 million on that stuff. Drank a bunch of hotstuff and bull testicle extract orchic and the like. Handfuls of that algae residue crap that I can't remember the name of. Steroid Replacer Paks that made my nose bleed. How did we survive?
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
For real!  And today the young bloods think every supplement is garbage and that our own beloved male hormone is bad for us to even replace as we age - hell, that crap we all consumed back in the day, the supplements and their outrageous claims, garbage ingredients, it really was wide open . . . definitely a wonder any of us are even still around.
Houseknives (1 year ago)
i am 46 and I know what your saying...younger people getting into BB have the world at there finger tips....man I wish I had that back in the 80 an 90's...good post..you are looking leaner..you in your 50's waht is your take on eating one meal a day..been watching(Mike Rashard) a BB says he is eating one meal a deal....like to hear your input on that,my body could not do it...blood sugars get low and I get the shacks and feel run down.
Houseknives (1 year ago)
James Tiny Vest .......yeah I cannot eat that way your looking lean.......I train the HIT STYLE Training for 4 years now an i have put on more muscle in the lAst few years wish I would have trained like that when I was in my 20...
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
I don't know about one meal a day - I like eating . . . sometimes a little too much!  I am drastically changing eating habits as I grow old but I am too far along to even care to try one meal a day.  Hell, any of us could have a frigging heart attack or something anytime - me, I don't want to die hungry!
Dustin Gomez (1 year ago)
Really cool stuff. Where are the group of retards that disliked?
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
I just don't know - I don't even know why they would bother wasting their time on a channel they do not care for - I guess their time is not valuable to them and they don't know what else to do with themselves.
Ted Trager (1 year ago)
So James, how many days a week were you training once Brian had you rest more?
Lo Ho (11 months ago)
I think it's the best way to grow, one Day on followed by a Day off,... and doing heavy compound movements. I also like this way of training the best, just hardcore, balls to the walls, no bull. Always liked arnold franco coleman levrone yates Mike francois centopani trey brewer,... trainingvideos, simple hard training, not too fancy. It's the hardest on your joints, ligaments,... though, but it's most effective for size. Once in a while when you feel your body needs rest, take a week off, or train with machines and cables for a week, pumping the muscles full with oxygen rich blood, to actively recover the tissue.
m Miller (1 year ago)
Ted Trager I want to hear about the program, too; days, split, etc.
Mark Pikas (1 year ago)
It's funny, I've tried all sorts of crazy stuff to get my arms to grow and they finally grew (a little) recently when I gave up and mostly stopped doing direct arm work and just stuck to the heavy basics (a lot of benching and some pull ups) now in my mid 40's...
Ted Trager (1 year ago)
Wow. Great info...less is often more!
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Hell, Brian Weston had me training like 3 days per week with just about no isolation work - no direct arm work at all.  Later, I would sometimes cease my arm workouts for about 3 months every year and focus on just basic compounds, and in that time, my arms did not atrophy, they did maintain.  When I would resume arm training after the 3 months, I usually made gains - so every year I would do this and I swear it was one tactic that kept my arms growing little by little.
jprp999 (1 year ago)
Cybergenics was the biggest croc going.
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
It may have been a croc but no where near the biggest - not with all the bs that was out at that time - much more so than today.  It could have been pills full of nothing but for me it did show me how and what to eat, how to train, how to pre-fatigue, it introduced me to an actual "system" - and it was the real first time I began to understand how the nutrition supported the training.
D Mo (1 year ago)
enjoyed the chat💪
plantsinspace (1 year ago)
6:15 jefferson deadlift was a basic movement?
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Oh hell yeah - first "serious" weight set I bought was a 110 lb. set (1" hole and bar) with a pamphlet inside it explaining how to lift weights written by Bob Hoffman - one of the few lifts in there was the Jefferson "squat" - that's what it said, Jefferson Squat.  WTF, I just did it (or tried to - seemed awkward as hell for me as a beginner).
Drama (1 year ago)
yea i didnt get my nutrition really good untill 2 3 years ago. first 5 years of training mine sucked.
Drama (1 year ago)
dude i had a dream i met u last night and you where acting so crazy lol. Shit was funny man.
Drama (1 year ago)
Lol
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
If by "crazy" you mean somewhat senile, then, yeah, might have been me, bro!
Brian Pecsi (1 year ago)
My staples are fish oil, multi vitamin, whey with a mix of bcaa during my session. I will cycle other products on and off but haven't found a must have to add to my stack. Love to hear about a must have product that produces results
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Karbolyn!
Brian Pecsi (1 year ago)
James your looking huge cuz. great video thank you for sharing
Docdoherty13 (1 year ago)
James night time stories....except it's day!! 😂
You have the voice of jhonny cash 👍👍
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
That is so odd to hear because I actually play guitar and sing a good bit of his music!
SgtFitnessOnline (1 year ago)
Breathing squats, a compound pulling & pushing movement, food, milk, and rest.
So informative. .thanks Jim.
Mason C. (1 year ago)
YouTube changed everything when it comes to training and nutrition and gear. all the information is there, but it still wont change genetics, or consistency or work ethic. all the proper information don't mean shit if you cant apply it on a daily basis. I know way too many experts on bodybuilding and guys that post 20 things a day on Instagram about bodybuilding and 95% of them look like they don't even take gear or barely even lift. You can build a great physique without great genetics but very few have what it takes to do it
Astral Apophis (1 year ago)
Great stuff brotha! It was a blessing to meet y'all
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
We were blessed to meet you, brother.  That is how I feel everytime I get to meet good, solid folks!
Per Folkesson (1 year ago)
I like the candle , you schould start some kind om Gorilla meditation :)
Lo Ho (11 months ago)
It's a bit like a maffia interior with the candle, and James being the Godfather, do it more bro, it's a Nice background for filming, love it!
m Miller (1 year ago)
James Tiny Vest James, please tell us about the training that you were doing when you broke 200 pounds. what schedule, routine, etc.
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Oh, I meditate, brother, and I recite my peace instilling mantra all the time, especially driving in rush hour traffic to or from work!
K1ng of sheba (1 year ago)
What do you think about sarms?
K1ng of sheba (1 year ago)
James Tiny Vest Well than what do you recommend to get huge, if that was my main focus rn?
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
I do not have any experience with them and have no knowledge pertaining to them.  Try to understand, I have been considerably bigger than I am today and this now is my scaled down build - if I wanted to get really big again (which I would never do - I am over that) I already know what to do and could easily do it so I have no motivation to seek to build a better mouse trap - if it ain't broke, don't break it.
preludeF20Bking (1 year ago)
K1ng of sheba good question
tao123chi (1 year ago)
man, the money i wasted on weider crap. the anabolic mega pack, the metabolic mega pack,the weight gain that tasted like sand. the protein powders that come to find out were like, 40% ash. that s.o.b. should have been sued into oblivion. he built his co. off total b.s. lies. then all the lies he told in his magazines. the dude never even really lifted. and me as a novice boughtinto all that crap back in the 80s
Jason Dinkins (1 year ago)
We all did that pre-internet. We are all in the same boat as you. You're not in that boat alone. Thankfully, now we have people like James who speak the truth for all to see.
Josh Kahn (1 year ago)
tao123chi when I was 17 I bought Weider's mass gain tub with Mike Matarazzo on the label expecting to look like him. Worst decision of my young life. Within two days of drinking those 2000 calorie shakes, my stomach stretched out and I gained fat around my midsection. It completely distorted my body and I went from a 165 lb kid with abs to a 190 lb fat ass. Even when I lost the weight, I still had that pear shape. My self confidence sank and I became depressed. I've spent the past 20 years trying to undo the damage from a $20 tub of sugar
j trigg (1 year ago)
My brain really started working overtime on this one freaking supplement that was supposed to make me a monster. I mean I was already taking everything I could get my hands on. OKG, plant sterols, boron, whatever. You think I would have figured it out, but I was hyped. But there was one I tried like once or twice, but it sounded and read so mysterious and cool, I had to have it. Even Fred Hatfield was pushing it as some sort of holy grail. Then I remembered it today. Mumie. That was the algea stuff. Some kind of stuff you find under rocks after a couple dozen years of plants have rotted underneath or around them. I also remember reading Hatfields book "Bodybuilding, a Scientific Approach", and looking at this whole list of crap he said was helpful. All these herbs and spices. No lie, I took that list and worked up some sort of list of the most anabolic ones, and went to this Asian place off in a weird neighborhood and had a lady make all that crap up into little pills for me. I don't know what she put in the pills, looking back at it. But she was supposed to put in all the stuff hatfield said was good, and she said she had it in all the jars and crap she had laying about in that house. People think they have it bad now.
bigtonutz (1 year ago)
ahahahaha
j trigg (1 year ago)
people think protein farts are bad now. How about downing a full cup of cheap cassien mixed with cake batter on top of whole milk three times a day with a hand full of liver tabs for good measure. That chocolate Metabolic 9000 with the molecules on my the label. High fructose, casein and milk solids. Gym squat racks always smelled like ass.
Josh Palacios (1 year ago)
Always enjoy hearing the stories and experiences of old school lifters like yourself. Good video brother
Marc Gabriele (1 year ago)
Great video.Training infrequently and hard is the way.Rest is the key.
Larry Hobbs (1 year ago)
Good video jimmy. I listen to you because you speak from trial and error. Very informative man. Lots of knowledge for someone just starting out no matter what there age
Larry Hobbs hell yea! great channel
M. p. (1 year ago)
May i say i thank u very much for talking about Fairlife Milk i really like it and i feel like it helps your strengh
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
I love Fairlife - I drink it every day, and with it being so clean and lactose free (which many claim but I really think Fairlife is the cleanest) it keeps my skin fairly thin (which lactose usually thickens), and of course the no bloat thing is great.
bigtonutz (1 year ago)
thanks for sharing james truly inspirational progress through your journey. just curious how many times a week did your train back then when training like a powerlifter? was the 3 days per week? 4 days? and was there anything that told you in your body that said I wont train because I'm not recovered yet? just curious. aged lifter myself start late in the game would love some more info on that in a video or if you are not busy in the comment section. thanks man. and god bless!
bigtonutz (1 year ago)
thanks james!
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
We were training 3 days per week and not really doing any direct arm work - actually only really doing compound movements, and blessings to you, brother.
FamilyGamingTube (1 year ago)
Big fan James. Informative video. Thanks
JoeDIY&Rentals (1 year ago)
Hey man! Can you please do a video on muscle imbalances and how to even it out?. For example, left trap is smaller than the right.
Felix Vargas (1 year ago)
I have the exact same problem. At first I thought it was the lighting in the room. I better start racking plates with my left hand like Traav said.. good idea!
kaz85 (1 year ago)
Joe Schmitz Very few people have perfect body symmetry. Arnold never had it, Lou Ferrigno never had it. both of my arms are 16 inches but look different, the muscle bellies are not the same shape. Just keep lifting hard.
JoeDIY&Rentals (1 year ago)
Great advice!
Traav Himself (1 year ago)
in all seriousness though I only rack and re rack plates with my left hand to help even the balance out
JoeDIY&Rentals (1 year ago)
Lol!
j trigg (1 year ago)
the first runs of Hot Stuff, the banana flavor, had d-bol in it. Most of that run was given away. Due to that, it got a rep for serious gains... MetRx, when Scott Connelly introduced it, came in two containers. Base and activator. one for 12 servings and one for 8 servings of i recall. Sort of like hot dogs and buns. That first run was full of clenbuterol. And it got the rep for cutting. I bought weider gain powder and anabolic mega paks at Walgreens. I never tried cybergenics, but was fascinated with the Dash Building Box.
mark jones (7 months ago)
Only the first few batches had D bol. The rest was junk.
mark jones (7 months ago)
You are exactly right. I gained 15Ibs off my first container of Hot stuff. After that it was all down hill.
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
Yeah, the original Hot Stuff was crazy - there was a frenzy for it and it was always unavailable.  I knew lots of guys who loved it and I actually had one container of it but used it so infrequently, I did not notice any outstanding gains from it but it did rev me up - then the later rendition came out and everybody ran to it but were disappointed because it clearly was not the same stuff.  Of course, we didn't know what the hell was in it - we just figured there was something to the everything but the kitchen sink list of roots and vitamins and herbs it claimed to contain.  Later, it became widely known to have had d-bol in it.
Gamalier Reyes (1 year ago)
One of my uncles was a bodybuilder years ago... And he told me in prison, they used to get "HotStuff"... He said there was nothing and still is nothing on the market like it, he swore it had steroids in it....and it did!
AlabamaJRB (1 year ago)
Another great video.
J R (1 year ago)
Those wher the good old days James lol
J R (1 year ago)
Your right back then weider was the main one
Eddy Delgado (1 year ago)
3rd; so i can take that Bronze medal
Herb Levin (1 year ago)
Hot Stuff. Weider protein we choked down. lol
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
I remember Ultimate Orange - Carl (Chip) and I used to use that for a while when we first heard of it.
mikedeek (1 year ago)
Heard the same thing possibly dbol. Then they pulled it to reformulate. Not sure if there's any proof . Also ultimate orange is another old school sup for the 90s
Nick South (1 year ago)
Herb Levin I used to love Hot Stuff...there was a rumor that it had "gear" in it at one time
Ronin (1 year ago)
1st

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