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Deadlifting Worthless for Bodybuilders - yes or no?

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fel1x (2 months ago)
Why are you afraid of namedropping Kali Muscle? Sounds odd to not know him while knowing most small channels.
scott gooch (2 months ago)
iv never done any kind of enhancement apart from the normal powders im massivly thick and big chest pretty wide i weigh 12st im around 5,10 i would like to be wider do i have natural genetics? my uncle was a body builder in the 70s tiny weighst and he was huge all natural all my family have been built big but all around the 5,10 mark what do i do next?
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Drama (3 months ago)
Look at the beard here man it was long last year
Mr.iMpOssiBLe (4 months ago)
have u seen franco columbu's badass back...
Jamie (4 months ago)
Am 25 years old and have deadlifted since i trained 8 years ago, i have always had lower back pain after squats and deadlifts, i spoke to a competitive BB today after the gym and he said its most probably a genetic weakness, sobhe said what would u rather do deadlift and suffer potentially never train again or stop then and replace with rows/ tbar? Gonna have to bite the bullet and give em up i think...
Ryan Vlasic (4 months ago)
There's bodybuilding deadlifts and powerlifting deadlifts. Bodybuilders should start deadlifts with the bar at mid thigh height and do more reps. Deadlifts will make your entire body grow.
Shadowboxe (6 months ago)
Straight leg dead lifts, Romanian deadlifts and rack pulls are superior for bodybuilding than conventional deadlifts imo. Deadlifts are great for overall strength, but the aforementioned have an added hypertrophy component which makes them more optimal for bodybuilding purposes than the conventional deadlift.
Drama (8 months ago)
Deadlifted 400 with a trap bar tonight for 10 reps. Fealt every muscle in my body working it's awesome.
Chris Weidner (9 months ago)
The deadlift remains my favorite gym experience. At 59 it is the only lifting that I can still go heavy.
jonb5150 (9 months ago)
Don't necessarily agree with Jim here.  I never do deadlifts and I have significant density.  Deadlifting is a massively overrated exercise.
Surup Sowmithri (10 months ago)
Deadlifting is by far my favourite powerlift, especially cuz it targets the back and legs. Sumo deadlifts ftw
A FUCKING SPACE MARINE! (11 months ago)
I fucked up m knee real good, are dead lifts good enough for my legs?
Josh B. (1 year ago)
Completely useless Sir
Power bodybuilding (1 year ago)
My back has gotten so much thicker since I've been deadlifting especially in the low Lats.
Tony Eatinsky (1 year ago)
You should triple the size of the Gorilla's FOREARMS in the begining of your video to make it more related to you ;)
Giorgi Zautashvili (1 year ago)
deadlift is almost worthless and pretty dangerous for an inexperienced (or just delusional) person who thinks it is a back exercise
no3rdseat (1 year ago)
James, when you do deadlifts, do you try to put your mind in the muscle? If so, which muscles are you focusing on and flexing? Or is it just a compound movement where you're trying to move mass through space? Thanks.
dirtmcgirt01 (1 year ago)
no3rdseat thoracic extension, squeeze the glutes, use double overhand grip in the beginning, therefore grip strength limits weight used and keeps ego in check and back safe. If you are rounding your back then you are wrong. Everyone's deadlift set up looks a little different due to torso and limb length differences.
Big R (1 year ago)
A lot of these young cats don't want any thickness, they are all about illusion. They want a tiny waist and a tiny trunk so their arms and chest (popping off of their skeletons) have the illusion of being bigger. And, sad to say, it works, and I think girls dig it. Even though I can grab them with one hand on their shirt and shake them like ragdolls until they drown in their own baby-puke.
Drama (8 months ago)
Big R lmao true Damm millennials
_adam.pxrsons_ (1 year ago)
Another point well made James
joe (1 year ago)
Using the Trap Bar has allowed me to do a modified deadlift again. It may not be the exact same lift, but it's close enough for someone with spine injuries.......
Drama (8 months ago)
joe I do them two my l4 disk is jacked
Home Theater Junky (1 year ago)
Dead lifting makes me feel light on my feet and have found no other way to make my core feel the way it does. I say take it slow use proper form and love the results.
Suk Mike Hok (1 year ago)
Deadlift is a great exercise for functional strength, but for hypertrophy it's not an effective exercise at all compared to other exercises. Why? 1) It's purely concentric and don’t involve dynamic contraction. 2) None of the involved muscles gets trained through their full range of motion. 3) It's VERY demanding for the central nervous system. A much better exercise is Romanian deadlifts, the quads gets taken out of the equation but the posterior chain will get trained better, especially the hamstrings and gluteus. Another alternative that will train the hams, gluteus and erector spinae better is hypers with the pad below the waist, the upper back won't get trained isometrically as in deadlifts or romanian deadlifts though.
Power bodybuilding (1 year ago)
Suk Mike Hok that massive load on the CNS and stress you place on the entire body is what works. Same concept when it comes to squat. It works!
conlan gooch (1 year ago)
hey im aiming to get ig so im eating loads and lifting heavy (i understand the biometrics or whatever of hypertrophy or whatever) so i know that :)_ what im asking though, im deadlifting 50kg, at a struggle but im managing it... and have only vbeen deadlifting since feb 2017..... but i see more growth through bench press... so my chest... but not my back.. i see development in my back and traps but i also do shoulder presses so its prob that.... so how do i keep track of how much bigger i become because of deadlifting... as a compound movement i dont see me looking bigger in general? I just see my chest arms things ect... getting bigger becase of other compound exercises :) i hope someone can follow this and not die of frustration
Joe (1 year ago)
Focus on improving your deadlift weight, 50kg isn't going to do alot, once you get that to 140kg for reps, you'll notice you'll look alot thicker.
SgtFitnessOnline (1 year ago)
The dead lift is one of the best exercises a person can do no matter their goals. An argument could be made for the dead lift to be better then the squat. You know it's funny and sad to me. All these lost young guys. They spend an hour or more working their arms when they can't dead lift 300 lbs. and can't understand why their arms stay small. You want big arms or anything else you got to have some clay.
Andro (1 year ago)
Mr Olympia Phil heath doesn't deadlift... it's funny how everyone needs it for width except for the best bodybuilder in the world.
AmericanBulldogFit (1 year ago)
He's not wide at all. Narrow clavicles. Over rated bodybuilder. They all suck today compared to the 90's era
Lo Ho (1 year ago)
Phil heath did deadlifts in the past, look at his dvd phil heath the beginning in 2006 before winning Colorado pro 2006, he also did them later in armbrust pro gym in smith. But even if phil didn't do them, I can mention the 2 greatest backs of all time, yates and coleman, and guess what they had in common.....deads ;)
Aaron Chadwick (1 year ago)
Comparing the most elite bodybuilder in the world to regular people is stupid. Even pros like Dallas McCarver deadlift super heavy.
MrByaeger (1 year ago)
As a tall guy with skinny legs and a bad back, I have always hated deadlifting and squats, but I've been putting both back into my workout with light weights and very clean technique to see if I can balance my body out over time. I'm not worried about size , just want to stay fit and strong but I figure if I have always hated these lifts it's because I'm weak at them so I better change that
WalkingOnSunshineMan (1 year ago)
what do you think of heavy kettlebell swings (+60 kg) as a compound exercises for the whole body?
WalkingOnSunshineMan (1 year ago)
DL worthless??! LMAO joke for the day
Paul (1 year ago)
My lower back always goes, no matter how light i go!
James Hofman (1 year ago)
Deadlifting can help you if you have the right frame of mind while you lift. Especially with heavy weight you have to have to be in the right frame of mind. Our bodies are made of energy...positive or negative the way a person uses thier energy will determine if they grow properly or not.
Alexander Osherow (1 year ago)
great video like always. i can attest to say that the big 3 are key elements in overall size and strength as well as muscular endurance. between deads and squats for size, i also agree that deads are better and they don't seem to put as much strain on my entire body as squats do which leads to better frequency.
jim dandy (1 year ago)
Some people are sissies and think of excuses of why they cant do benching, etc. I am 61, had open heart surgery and do lots of cardio and I do deadlifts and squats, nothing less than 5 reps so no max efforts Dusty has a recent 675 deadlift video, that's impressive for his body type You're massive Jim, especially for your age so I think its fair to say you were blessed genetically, in the late 70's I knew someone who managed a GNC and placed 3rd in MR. A a few times, for sheer size you dwarf him
IronMover Always (1 year ago)
Great Coverage!!!
Me Catalin (1 year ago)
I just do higher reps with deadlifts on the first set and then work my way up in weight and drop reps, its fucked up how hard it is to do but it works for me
jim jam (1 year ago)
james, would you go over specifics in deadlifting as to how tall you are how high the weights (correct ergonomics) should be from the ground in proportion to your height? touch n go or one at a time? age? correct posture per your height? etc..... i love the deadlift, per my low back spinal issues, age, and height, i recently raised my raised deadlift platform another inch to help accomodate. i wonder if i need to raise it a lil more even though i tried that before it didn't seem like it wasn't working as good when it was lower but i couldn't go heavier with it lower for my spine. would you do a really in detail specific video for the deadlift? i usually work my way up from light to very heavy then go back down to working weight with 10reps touch n go, then last set or 2 use a lighter weight 20rep touch n go to finish it off bout twice a week. sometimes i do just heavy, sometimes i do 4 sets of 20 reps with bout a 1-2 min rest interval. preciate all your knowledge and i do agree the deadlift is the one exercise that helps my spine and spinal erectors. feel like a million bucks when done. thanks, james.
shad johnsen (1 year ago)
What set/rep range would you suggest for most when it concerns Building size and strength?
M Smith (1 year ago)
I tried deadlifting last year and fucked my back up big time. It took me a week before I could put my own shoes on. I'm pretty sure I was doing it wrong though, as I have a prosthesis on my right leg. I was wondering if there were any guerrilla's out there with a prosthetic leg that is having the same problems with movement in certain exercises like squat ect.
M Smith (1 year ago)
great advise, I'm going to modify a few lifts I do. Things are a little different with a prosthetic, forces a person to get real creative.
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
You have a modified leg, you may have to modify your deadlift - maybe start with rack pulls, high, progressively move the pins down or keep them in a sweet spot for you - there is no rush, there is only what works now.  Only do what is beneficial, always.
The Disabled Gamer (1 year ago)
James you da man, love ya bro.
Dave Mc (1 year ago)
im 35 i started messing with weights 12 years ago i had scoliosis and as a result many issues the deadlift helped me build a big back and a strong back i cant speak for everyone but i swear by it
Tamtam Micabalo (11 months ago)
I have a slight s shape scoliosis. How did deadlift affect yours? Did it fix it?
LJswish1 (1 year ago)
Have you ever done the 20 rep squat program?
Chassetter (3 months ago)
Try the birthday challenge too. Squat your body weight for as many reps as your age!
Chris Weidner (9 months ago)
Eric Nakahara Eric thanks for the heads up!!
Eric Nakahara (1 year ago)
I used to do squats only holding a 45lb plate at my chest and do six sets of 40 to 50 reps. I had to keep my legs slimmer for running 2 miles in 13 minutes, but the squats helped out a lot for carrying a 80lb rucksack through the jungle.
Tom Zerra (1 year ago)
Being 6'4" makes deadlifts a bit more risky. I used to do them back in the day, but was hard to find the right groove consistently.
Batojiri1 (1 year ago)
No, you don't HAVE to deadlift to have a big back. I would go as far as to say that most people shouldn't deadlift if their body isn't setup for it. Taller people have a further bar path distance they have to travel to lock out and overloading your lower back with weight is a torn L5 waiting to happen. If you can't perform deadlifts without a scared cat back, you shouldn't deadlift, period.
Ryan Wiley (8 months ago)
Batojiri1 Cat back means too much weight
Lo Ho (1 year ago)
I haven't done deadlifts and rack pulls in almost 3 weeks and I feel like shit. Goddamn I love those, combined with some barbell rows, that's just my BAE!!
Gerard King (1 year ago)
When you're super tall you can also crank the weight right off the floor. Bill Kazmaier, Chris Hickson, Vince Urbank and George Leeman all demonstrate this. It's really a matter of most people get injured doing deadlifts because of horrible technique and it's never talked about often but also gear. I see more guys on gear getting injured with deads and it always seems to be a hamstring tear.
Snake Roberts (1 year ago)
Bullshit! Just take it slow...tall or short, it's all the same. No deadlift? Weak back for you!...unless you do bent rows of course. lol
G FUCKURSELF (1 year ago)
Love/hate dead lifts. Not nice on the low back at all.
G FUCKURSELF (1 year ago)
Thank you for the advice. I am gonna give those a shot.
James Tiny Vest (1 year ago)
hypers and especially reverse hypers will solve that issue - guaranteed.
Spence 62 (1 year ago)
Agreed 100%!!!! I love deadlift days
Jody (1 year ago)
If James tells you to eat air.. I would advise you to get to chompin! KEEP EM COMING BRO,WE ARE LISTENING!!
Josh Waz (1 year ago)
This is very true. Lately, I get more sore off the pec fly machine than with heavy high volume dumbbells bench press ever would. I believe everyone has a different exercise that works best for a body part
IamYakYak TV (1 year ago)
damn.... we just spoke about this. guess i gotta step up my deadlift game. maybe will build my calves lol
ningis21 (1 year ago)
Deadlift, Squat, Bench Press, Bent Rowing, Dips, Pull ups, Barbell Curl, all strict form..., ...Great for building a solid core and basic all round strength. The basic moves to build a solid foundation...and then hone your training to suit your desire...Power lifting, Bodybuilding etc... Keep it basic at the start....that's my view anyhow.
Chassetter (3 months ago)
excellent post, but don't forget OHP!
B Real (1 year ago)
hey T.....How's Bryan making out after his tear?
Mario (1 year ago)
Hillary  Clinton looks really good in that picture on your wall.
Shaun Reed (1 month ago)
anonymous user (2 months ago)
thought it was rosie
Ryan Vlasic (4 months ago)
That's an insult to cows.
Drama (8 months ago)
Mario lmao
Dustin Gomez (1 year ago)
LOL - that's an insult to the poor cow though man. It would need to be a painting of a pig instead. an ugly fat one.
KongLuvs (1 year ago)
For pulling off the floor, using chains or bands to overload the top position will give even greater stimulation. After you figure out the right overload, you can get rack pull like stimulation in your traps and upper back, while still keeping the benefits of pulling from floor level. And pulling with chains is just plain fun. There ain't nothing like the sound they make.
Doctor Sambor (1 year ago)
so much game... james your the best i hope you understand how much your appreciated
Steven Kane (1 year ago)
back never started getting thick until i started deaddlifting and pinching my back huge difference definitely not a useless exercise. one of the best for back and good for hamstrings.
GIMRvLOGS (1 year ago)
Deadlifts are like a drug, you GOTTA have them!
Robert Lillyblad (9 months ago)
Squats are like heroin bro, never try it. Jk dont skip leg day kids
TheMaharishi (1 year ago)
Deadlifts might be cocaine but squats are crack. Benching is for quitters in rehab ;-)
S P (1 year ago)
100% these absolutely nothing else that puts mass onto so many body parts at one time than dead lifts.
Ray Dominguez (1 year ago)
James, what about hex/trap bar deadlifts? Does that bar have the same benefits? Thanks!
Wayne Forni (1 year ago)
How anyone can say deadlifts are useless for bodybuilding must go to planet fitness. I had to give up deadlifting and it sucks. I definitely agree think they are hands down the best lift.
1vw4me (1 year ago)
Great vid Tiny. I'd been working out since I was 18, but didn't start Deadlifting until I was 32. (never wanted to ruin my back) By carefully training with proper certified instructors and Powerlifters, I've slowly worked myself up to 500 lb deadlift. (I'm 200 lbs.) I make sure to use a belt, but haven't needed straps or knee protection. I'm taking my time, and slowly worked my way up. Better safe and slow, then injured and out of the game!
t.j. johnson (17 days ago)
Then you must either be heavier than him or possibly enhanced in some fashion. A 2.5Xbw lift period without anything but a belt is a darned good lift and I highly doubt you've met many "meaning VERY few" people at most gyms can even do that if even you can. That's the problem with YouTube. You see all these so called natural lifters "and I know James isn't claiming to be natural" that lift an absurd amount and all the while they are juicing. NO one is lifting super heavy weights while maintaining low bf levels and not juicing. I don't care what you might think because it's not reality. BTW my total is 1550 at 250lbs at 48yo with nothing but a belt and no pharmaceutical enhancement so I DO know a thing or 2 about lifting.
Brennan Eggers (1 month ago)
t.j. johnson 500lbs really isn't that impressive.......sorry?
t.j. johnson (2 months ago)
That's a 2.5X bw deadlift. What's yours mr. macho. I doubt that good for bw.
Alpha Macho (4 months ago)
1vw4me 500 is decent. Not shit but not garbage either
Chris Weidner (9 months ago)
1vw4me No wrist wraps? Chalk?
Cellar Door (1 year ago)
Anyone who doesn't deadlift,unless they are physically unable to,is a pussy.End of.
Power bodybuilding (1 year ago)
Whoopity Doo well that's a special circumstance. Of course that wouldn't apply to such a person.
TheHardcoreLife (1 year ago)
batojiri1 if you dont deadlift you are a fucking bitch.
Whoopity Doo (1 year ago)
Some people have had back surgery to where they can't do deadlifts. Deadlifts are great and are a core exercise to me, but get off your high horse, faggot.
Cellar Door (1 year ago)
You don't NEED to.But if you don't,you're a bitch.
Nick Blevins (1 year ago)
Batojiri1 umm. yes he did. dont get your panties in a wod lil boy.
HSC GT Cooper3 (1 year ago)
your awesome man
One Man Band (1 year ago)
if your arms are shorter than your legs,sumu deadlift is safer for your spine
One Man Band (1 year ago)
Romanian deadlift works great
The Daughter Who Sews (1 year ago)
I used to hate deadlifts. After you embrace them, WOW! They work you harder than any other exercise. Head to toe conditioning.
Steve (1 year ago)
Ronnie coleman will be dead lifting this week! just like he has been for the last 30 years. when I first started that the thing I could only do 135 now I can do over 400, so my legs and back have gotten stronger and BIGGER!!
mikedeek (1 year ago)
2:43 . I was a pretty decent size at one time lol
RUBEN FIERRO (8 months ago)
mikedeek corn fed MF!!
Psygodnp (1 year ago)
i have a weak back and poor posture - deadlifts scare me ! do i start very light? good form is very hard for me.
dirtmcgirt01 (1 year ago)
You will begin to enjoy training the muscles that are required for a strong deadlift. Your posterior chain will come alive and activate as it should. If you use your head and never your ego, deadlifting can change everything.
dirtmcgirt01 (1 year ago)
deadlifts will correct bad posture. Start light, practice proper form, watch lots of videos from people who know what they are doing. Deadlifting will strengthen the upper and lower back, glutes and hamstrings, build traps. It will teach you thoracic extension and enforce good posture in your body.
Davven (1 year ago)
Psygodnp work on your form and lift without weights first. look up proper deadlift form on youtube - gradually and carefully add weight when you're getting the hang of it. :)
Martin R (1 year ago)
sounds like a plan, take it slow and even your grandma can deadlift.
Big Hoss (1 year ago)
Top Shelf advice Big James good info people don't understand difference in what u gotta do to get size n strength and then later maintain it
Enrique Avila (1 year ago)
Well said
Remy novver36 (1 year ago)
I've noticed a lot improvements when I did deadlifts for back.
Remy novver36 (1 year ago)
Damn u jackd now.
BeeN BRAZY (1 year ago)
🤔 I'm still torn between deadlifting or not, because on one hand you have big guys like James who say go deadlift, but then you have guys like Kali that say they don't deadlift at all and it's not necessary.
Lo Ho (1 year ago)
That big Ron video pulling 800 back in the Day still give da fuckin' chillzzzzz right down my spine which prevent me from doing deadlifts lol, in my view best exercise ever!!
Mario (1 year ago)
It's not 'necessary' to do dead lifts. But it does have benefits if you do them.
Big Hoss (1 year ago)
9 outta 10 bodybuilders Deadlift Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates, Branch Warren,Big Ramy,Jay Cutler only reason he might not deadlift is because it takes longer to recover from so you gotta learn what u can recover from meanin volume n frequency I'm not even a bodybuilder I'm all powerlifting but a lotta most impressive backs were built with Deadlift,Rows,Pull ups/pulldowns so I go with the obvious give it a shot
BeeN BRAZY (1 year ago)
Big Hoss If you watch some of his old videos he clearly said he didn't deadlift at all as a BB, and the only time he deadlifted was for high school sports.So yea I'm sure everyone who has competed has deadlifted at some point in time, but the effects are not going to be that permanent.
Big Hoss (1 year ago)
BeeN BRAZY Kali might not deadlift NOW doesn't mean he never did deadlift He probably built enough thickness in his back with years of deadlifting now he just maintains it big difference on what they use to do n what they do Now
ghettobeats (1 year ago)
Wow! I'm gonna start doing more deadlifts now!
Brian Samuels (1 year ago)
I am a bodybuilder. I've been lifting for 9 years now and I love deadlifts. when I implemented them into my routine all my major compound strength exercises went up especially my squat and bench press. plus deadlifts hits the traps, shoulders, chest, triceps, biceps, forearms, abs, back, lower back, glutes, hamstrings, quads, even calves😊 the only problem that I encountered is my lower back doesn't heal fast enough for me. Other than that great exercise for a bodybuilder
SandipGhattaora (1 month ago)
Brian Samuels interesting how you said your strength went up but nothing about how your body changed which is surely more important for a bodybuilder?
Shakou (8 months ago)
+Conlan Gooch your mirror is all you need dude
conlan gooch (1 year ago)
hey im aiming to get ig so im eating loads and lifting heavy (i understand the biometrics or whatever of hypertrophy or whatever) so i know that :)_ what im asking though, im deadlifting 50kg, at a struggle but im managing it... and have only vbeen deadlifting since feb 2017..... but i see more growth through bench press... so my chest... but not my back.. i see development in my back and traps but i also do shoulder presses so its prob that.... so how do i keep track of how much bigger i become because of deadlifting... as a compound movement i dont see me looking bigger in general? I just see my chest arms things ect... getting bigger becase of other compound exercises :) i hope someone can follow this and not die of frustration
G FUCKURSELF (1 year ago)
I have seen alot of poor form and i guess that's why i have\had such a negative attitude about them.
G FUCKURSELF (1 year ago)
Damn, that's inspiring. How i am feeling now coming off almost three years later. Hope for the pain to at least get less bothersome. Soon i will be doing them again. Really enjoy watching the show, great info. Just to be clear, i did not hurt my back doing deadlifts. It was the sum total of injuring the same area over and over again(left hip/buttocks), mostly job related(light Infantry). Try not to fall on the rifle as i am right handed. Even slide down a scree hill well over a hundred feet bouncing of the larger stationary rocks on the way down. The weight of the body Armour and ammo with a ruck sack added to the "fun". Rode on my ass all the way down to the bottom. That's what really started the problems for me. It has only gotten worse with each repeat injury i had. Literally "busted" my ass. I just did not want to make it worse that's why i stopped doing them and low and behold my back has become worse.

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